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Emptiness and it's purpose [Mar. 19th, 2006|12:22 pm]
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If the emptiness of a room is what's important, does not adding things to the room make the emptiness less significant?
If the emptiness of a glass is what's important, does not adding water to the glass make the emptiness less significant?
If the emptiness of the mind is what's important, does not adding knowledge to it not make the emptiness less significant?

Or is what replaces the emptiness of a greater significance then the emptiness it's self?
If not this then should I not begin removing things from my room to make way for more emptiness?
The more that is added to a room, does it create a living conflict with the emptiness?
The more that is added into the body, does it not create a living conflict with the subtle voice of the body?
The more that is added to the mind, does it not create a living conflict with the mysteries hidden within the mind?
By living conflict I mean a conflict that is alive.
Feng Shui? Is Feng Shui of the mind possible or obtainable?

Is the thinking mind full of knowledge and chatter,
and the moving body full of consumption and waste,
not in a state of being that is difficult to pick up on the
subtleness and mysteriousness of life?
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[User Picture]From: phetuspolice
2006-03-19 10:36 pm (UTC)
knowledge does not affect emptiness. it is filling the banks of self-knowledge, not the emptiness of a still mind that is 'doing nothing'.

it is what you carry into the moment that distorts a sense of emptiness.
the sage knows, but does not think.

once you have attained all knowledge, you have no need to think.

in perfect emptiness, you are drifting in nothingness. you are free to do anything.
however, in this emptiness, you are given the ground, the sense of gravity, the idea of up and down.
you do not think these things when you walk. you have knowledge of them, but do not carry them.
you are empty, a reflection of whats around you.

you can have an empty room. an empty bed. empty cabinets and drawers. empty closet. however, you fill them up when you take residence.
are you fulfilling the emptiness' purpose? are you tainting its pristine emptiness? it always gives for you, though. that's what emptiness is for, for us to fill it up.
the sage fills up only with necessities, which are usually null. other than that, the sage is a reflection of the emptiness around him.

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From: bodhistate
2006-03-20 03:51 am (UTC)
emptiness is defined through the lack of a presence. you can't "empty" something unless it had something in it!

an empty room is no less full than an occupied room. thinking does not need to be defined as chatter if it has direction; moving is not necessary waste.

emptiness is a state of change, not a permanent state. it is through the appreciation of having an empty space that we can give it significance.

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[User Picture]From: m_banu
2006-03-20 03:52 pm (UTC)
Glorifying emptiness robs it of its power.
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From: spaaace_monkey
2006-03-21 05:47 am (UTC)

More Fun With Semantics

Today's secret word is: teleology.



Rooms, glasses and minds are all containers... Their purpose is to hold things. The assumption that they have to have a certain amount of "free space" is a false premise.

Replace every occurence of "empty" in your question with "uncluttered", and you might be able to fix this on your own...

The whole principle of Feng Shui isn't about keeping 50-70% of a space dedicated solely to air, but about clearing out all the junk. Don't keep things you don't need; don't leave things dirty or broken; don't leave stuff where you can trip over it; don't cook in the bathroom, don't shit in the kitchen.

If you think about your mind in a metaphorical sense, then these same rules can be applied by extending them to that realm. Imagine it's like a library... OK, now clear all of the books off the floor and put them on the shelves where they belong. And don't leave porno mags on the coffee table where visitors might see them. Now hire a grumpy old lady to keep people from giggling and talking on their cellphones. There... Now you've got a well-stocked but well-ordered library.

And no one would argue that a library full of books is more useful than an empty one, as long as the books are helpful and accessible. Same thing goes for brains.
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